Teen Mom Junkies

You need to rise above Neanderthal sophistication level to be able to think about the sites and museums you can visit in NYC and find your hotel back.
Pitty her, she's so scared to go outside. She already had to live on the street once cause she lost her way home.

She probably posted that to try to lure Nathan back to her with promises of new Xbox games

How much you wanna bet she gets a new one delivered from an adoring fan? Blech!

You'd be amazed the amount of jobs within seemingly obsolete forms of media. They are hard to find sometimes, but there are also a variety of skills needed. I only say this because I work in that media world, lol.

HOWEVER, if I were any sane person, Kail wouldn't be hired based on the fact she was on MTV, having a generally awful attitude and making poor decisions for millions to watch. I wouldn't want the negative attention on my business, be it any of the crazy TM fans (I'm talking the crazies that support Jenelle and etc) and a quick google search of Kail would probably make most hiring managers uneasy, if they didn't already know who she was. Her presence is too fresh and active socially--and like recently, twitter itself shines a negative light on her and anyone else involved.

Don't get me wrong...I've posted this before. If ANY of the girls do something post-education worthy beyond MTV's from the couch documentaries of their lives, good for them. It's hard to do and we've all watched each girl struggle differently to do it (or not do it). However, most of the girls need a reality check instead of a MTV check. Kail being one, for sure.

Aren't police reports usually public in a newspaper or something?

@William, according to the stories I have read she was not arrested or ticketed for anything. So I doubt there is a record of it like that.

I totally agree! She denies the truth stories only!!!

Plus the #lifeafterleah pics sealed the deal. They all hung out with their wives and new girlfriend too! leah is flat out a LIAR!!!

I just do not buy this story at all.
Your reasons to believe it, in my opinion, are just as invalid.
Leah is a frigging liar and I personally discard ANYTHING that comes out of that woman's mouth atm, so her whole FB rant .. yeah.. not interesting.
Miranda getting more involved with custody; ehh.. they live together, they're married, there's a baby on the way. Custody affects her too and seeing as Corey works full time she probably spends a great deal of the time alone with those girls and is just as much a parental figure to them as Jeremy was. (or more actually, seeing as he worked away from home so much)
Corey not denying it, I see this as a mature thing to do. There's no frigging point anyway, people will believe what they want to believe.
The Ashley is just as much a gossip site as any other. Why have you declared it holy? (hi ashley :P)

also... Leah's drug abuse ... I didn't believe it til I saw it for myself. It's OBVIOUS this woman is high most of the time..

My reasons for not believing Corey banged Leah;

- He is disgusted by her. Has been for a while. In most episodes he can't even bear to look at her and when he does it's with pity or disgust
- Him meeting up with 'Jermz' and being all chummy with him - Jeremy would never do that if C banged his wife
- Corey seems to have the girls' best interest at heart. Ruining yet another marriage and their only stable home... I don't see him doing that

Is Corey a saint? No. Would cheating be beyond him? I don't know. I just don't think he would choose Leah to cheat on Miranda with if he had to choose anyone.

Back to my Minion life now then. BANANA!

@Summer's math problem. I completely agree with you. When the ashley posts a negative article on Leah than it must be true! But now that we find out that Saint Corey had sex with horrible, druggie Leah while in a "stable" marriage with "gorgeous" Miranda than it's a lie. The ashley is just a gossip site.

I do believe that this report is true and in large part because of the way Corey and Miranda have been acting this season on the show. They used to hide the way they felt, Miranda had no opinion of her own whatsoever but now it's clear that she hates Leah and doesn't hide it. Corey also doesn't hide his disdain for Leah and I think part of it is because fo the girls, but part of it is also because of Miranda. He cheated on her with Leah so he doesn't want to be caught being nice to her. He probably told Miranda after the fact that he regretted it and that he hates Leah so he has to act the part. And he probably really does hate Leah too because he is angry with himself and Leah for sleeping with her again after everything that happened.
I understand that their change of attitude also has to do with Leah endangering the girls with her addiction issues.

Something has been off all season long between Leah, Corey and Miranda and now we know why. It's not only because of the custody, drug issues.

I agree with you @summer .
Here is why I am not completely writing off the story as fake:

-Corey is a cheater. Period. He's cheated on his ex-girlfriend and he's cheated on Miranda multiple times-- and these are only the cases of infidelity we know about. This is what he does, guys. You'd think after like...the 4th time he's been unfaithful people would come to expect this. Corey can be a great father to his children and an unfaithful asshole to his wife at the same time. It's not that crazy.

-Corey had sex with Leah even though he dislikes her?! What?! NEWSFLASH: Guys have sex with women they can't stand ALL. THE. TIME. Additionally, it is not too rare to see couples in the midst of divorce that claim to despise one another continue to sleep together. I know it seems completely gross and irrational, but I've seen it happen (not literally, lol) before.

-When Leah publicly denies a rumor, it ends up being true. That does NOT mean that if Leah doesn't deny a rumor, it automatically is untrue. This is one of the rare instances where the rumor works out in her favor by making Corey look terrible. It makes sense that she would not deny this one.

-Fact is, The Ashley has never been wrong about Leah. She was the first one to predict Leah's pill addiction, the first one to know Leah left rehab early, and one of the first ones to know Leah had an affair with Robbie. The sources she used for this story are the exact same sources she's used for her other Leah stories.

-Some people are questioning the timing of the release of this information. I'd like to point out that in her article, The Ashley heavily implies that she has been sitting on this story for quite some time but has not been able to release it for fear of getting sued. She had to wait until another news source released the info before she could confirm it. The same thing happened when she knew that MTV had to step in because Leah put her kids in danger, but could not say exactly who she was talking about until the story had already leaked. The timing then, could not have been totally strategic. This info has been out there for a while.

I'm not saying I know 100% that Corey slept with Leah. I'm just saying that at this point I am open to the possibility of the story being true. I think it's a little silly that everyone here is so ready to deny ANY chance of this incident happening.

@doctor: when did Corey cheat on Miranda? I can't remember hearing/ reading about that. Was it a legit story?
P.S. I just can't write your full name, too weird and too much credit ;-).

Definitely. ^^^^

Right? I don't see how anyone couldn't like sexy Ryan. The posters have changed a lot here, but I still have to read the comments. (:

I'm from New Zealand, from the time you start trying you have to wait 5 years to become eligible for IVF funding unless you fund it yourself (which is 15,000+ per try) and even then the funding is only around half? I believe.

Why would somebody in their 20s have IVF? Why are they so desperately NEEDING to get pregnant that they wouldn't just keep boning and hoping for the best? It can take the body years. You don't just get pregnant by month 3 or you're "infertile" that's not how any of this works.

Oh, I forget. Stupidity + a need to prove yourself + needing some unconditional love that you can't get elsewhere because you're already a shit mum = this kind of desperation.

Maybe they used a DIY kit?

My first thought when reading that part was, "Are we sure Nicole really even knows what IVF is?" Would not surprise me at all to hear she has mistakenly said the wrong thing.

I know I could do lengthy research on this to get the answer, but can't justify the time right now... I wonder if it costs more to do IVF, or to adopt, roughly.

One of the woman I work with is 28 and had to do IVF, so they will use it on young people, however, she and her husband have been trying to get pregnant for 5-6 years using this method. I doubt Nicole is 23 and has been trying since she was 18...btw the woman is finally having her first baby in October :)

The cost of IVF vs adoption depends heavily on your health insurance and your adoption criteria- specifically, age and race. If you want a white newborn, it's probably going to cost more than IVF.

maybe she sold drugs and that's how she funded it. heh. or did something else shady.

Our bill for IVF (which insurance covered, because we live in MA) was about $30,000. Aside from the cost, though, no reputable doctor would start someone on IVF without at least a year of trying on their own, followed by another 6 months-1 year of various other options (clomid, IUI, etc). IVF is the last resort, not first-line therapy.

So yeah, I think it's more likely that she just doesn't know exactly what IVF is.

I'm so disappointed in her, i remember how likable she was in the last season, her awesome parenting skills, finally meeting Vee, and remember how she kept telling her friend how much she loved Vee? it was genuine it didn't seem fake or anything. I believe she has become grumpy again because her marriage is falling apart, she's sick of Javi and she's mad that Jo and Vee seem so happy together. I don't know if she still loves Jo but it's obviously she hates Javi so much, that's why she keeps taking trips. She would be much happier if she got rid of Javi, but oh wait, if she does then her "happily married image" would fall apart and it would hurt her ego.

It's like I wrote that post Babs! Right down to the miscommunication with your husband and your child got your attention! Lol good to know not every parent is like Leah!!

Those are such great ideas! I hope you don't mind if I steal them! Our first is due in April, so I'm always open to advice like this!

Congrats! You will be fine. A lot of love and some common sense goes a long way when it comes to parenting.
We were both absolutely clueless when I was pregnant with our first.
The only person that had ever thought us something about parenting was Jo Frost ;-). I even don't agree with a lot of her advice anymore now ;-).

Smelly- I love that you're open to advice! You have to be flexible because nothing goes according to plan! I read "What to Expect the First Year" and it really helped keep me from stressing over things that were actually normal. Always listen to your instincts and keep a sense of humor! It's a big adventure and you'll love it!!

I really needed the baby bibles when we had our first. LOL remember us in the middle of the night, baby bibles scattered trough our bed, exhausted. .. cramps.

Think my kids know mommy or daddy won't rearrange just their seat belt when they do that. ;-) Their screen time and free time activities will be seriously rearranged as well for a few days.

My daughter knows that too. She wants to become an elf and a police officer later.
I got a little cop in my car when I'm driving.
She comments on other people's driving and mine. I think today or yesterday I got told of for crossing an orange traffic light. She said pretty sternly she would help me and warn me from now on ;-).
We get tickets from our little cop too, for letting imaginary sheep escape mainly ;-).

She's going to catch the people that do graffiti. She can fly when she is an elf andvtrack them down at night. She hates graffiti. So darn cute.

Didn't he get served with some bullshit emergency protection order after that time too, so he had to stay away from Kail?

I swear, girls like her and Jenelle are the reason people doubt domestic violence victims.

So this is a really old charge then? The thing Jenelles page posted made it sound like it just happened, but I didn't see anything about it when I googled it. This is what she posted... http://breakingteenmomnews.com/4940436-13710534

How do I say this.... uhm... your source is Jenelle and/ or Tori...
That page is pure propaganda for Jenelle with some rewritten articles or things from Twitter etc. to make it look.legit.

Ya, I wouldn't exactly trust Jenelle's website. I'm sure if he was arrested for child support recently that Javi will post or "leak" the details, b/c he's obsessed with thinking he's Isaac's dad

I figured it was probably malarkey when I didn't see it anywhere else at all. She has all her fan girls going nuts over it.

Just FYI, don't click any links Jenelle's website gives. I believe someone on twitter figured out that it has an IP catcher.

Now they can use him as an excuse to take vacations to NYC!

Tom,
I didn't mean that to sound harsh.
I was truly just wondering what was going on I figured it had something to do with site updates or something.

All of the writers are doing a good job, my only advice would be that if its a slow news week or you guys are unable to write at least create a empty post for fee talk.

I also feel like that would make the comment issue less pressing because what happened is a story is written but then people something more to say but being on mobile sucks so it would help us not have to scroll so much.

Thanks again TMJ!

My mobile lay out is different. Less glitchy when I scroll for sure :)

Mine has changed too. Bless you Steve! And we've got the editing button back too. Thanks Steve.
And thanks TMJ team for everything.

Am I the only one having problems when posting a reply?
It starts out with really small print, then I get a big print and then I can't read what I'm typing anymore cause the last line is covered.

I'm not too optimistic that Amber got a lot of help for her drug issues. She may not be abusing pills anymore, but she seems to like drinking a little too much, and it's not uncommon for substance abusers to trade one addiction for another. Plus, I'm pretty sure she said she's not doing counseling or therapy because she thinks she doesn't need it. Maybe that's changed, but it seemed on "Teen Mom OG" that she wasn't very willing to seek actual treatment after gel time.

With that being said, I agree and I don't think Amber has fallen far enough to help run an actual drug ring. I think she's capable of doing something like that, but not at this moment in her life.

amber is not in "recovery" she still drinks. (and who knows what else) she doesnt do any 12 step program and isnt in therapy. thats not recovery. it's just not taking pain pills

Well, let's look at all the ways Amber has worked through her addiction:

She started drinking quite a bit.
She let a creepy guy move in with her after only knowing him in person for roughly thirteen hours.
She doesn't have custody of her child yet.
As far as we know, she doesn't have a job.
She doesn't go to school.
She almost got evicted from her apartment several months ago because she "forgot to pay rent", and would have been homeless if MTV hadn't intervened and given her the money she needed.
She refuses to accept the fact that her "fiance" is a scam artist who's only with her for her fame and easy money (which, again, they must have blown through if they all of a sudden couldn't pay rent).
She refuses to go to therapy or any kind of counseling.

I'm not trying to bash Amber or make it seem like her post-gel attempts at gaining normalcy are all for nothing. But the fact is, from what we have seen on the show and read online, she has backslid quite a bit and in pretty obvious ways. It's not about unconventional therapy or ways of becoming sober once more. Amber isn't doing jack shit for herself or her daughter. She'd rather lounge around at home with her disgusting fiance than actually take the steps to becoming the mother Leah really needs her to be. I've never been in this situation, so I can't imagine how hard it must be to adjust to life drug-free for the first time in years. I know that it's got to be very difficult for Amber. But she's an adult and she has a little girl who is depending on her to finally become a real mom. And, again, from what we've seen and read, Amber just isn't cutting it right now. She's not at rock bottom, but she's nowhere near the level she should be, especially with all her boasting that she's doing fine.

I agree, Catelynn's Carly Blanket. It is similar to Jenelle in some ways, who has been boasting about being a miracle story and a sobriety role model for years now, except she hasnt been sober, still has had all the same toxic, codependent behaviors and is now living with Tori and partying 7 days a week. Recovery is about changing the behaviors that got you in trouble in the first place. And MTV totally enables them to feel like like they don't have to work for anything else

Here's my prediction:

Jenelle- "ME and Nathan got into a huge fight and we both were arrested. I posted bail but Nathan is still in jail. I live with my mom with Jace and Kaiser but I have to find a job to get our own place. I have pending charges but I'm not worried about that because I'm going to see Nicki Minaj tonight with Tori. Jace and Kaiser go to school all day but they don't need me afterwards because they have my mom. I still don't have custody of Jace."

Kail- "Javi and I got a divorce a couple years ago. I have Lincoln and Isaac full time and I'm a single parent again. I live in Pennsylvania and Jo is still living in Delaware with Vee and their baby. Javi sees Lincoln 1 weekend a month because the Air Force has Javi so busy and he is getting ready to be stationed in (California/anywhere else far away) he pays $500 in child support and its not much so I am going to the courthouse now to raise it. I can't afford to send Lincoln and Isaac to private school anymore but I want to and I'm hoping Javi will put more effort into that for Lincoln. When Lincoln sees Javi for his weekend he is barely around him and Lincoln is usually with Javi's mom. Javi is in a new relationship with a man named Alex. He chooses Alex over his son and I'm pissed about it."

Leah- "I met a new guy named Jimmy, we had a baby together and named her Annaleigh Pride. Even though we aren't together anymore he sees Annaleigh every other weekend. He is still upset he has to pay $2000 in child support but if he wants it lowered all he has to do is go to court. He used to be Jeremy's boss and we started talking after T.R. ran out on me and the girlses. I'm still so stressed out but I'm trying to keep it together for my girlses."

Chelsea- Meh, same crap with/without Cole. Same baby voice. Adam still doing the same thing.

lol this is gold, except i believe Leah will have more than 1 kid in the upcoming five years.

While I agree Kail's tattoos look trashy as hell, people are becoming more accepting overall. I have a half sleeve, and am a Girl Guide leader. As long as the tattoos themselves aren't offensive or derogatory, most employers I've met don't have an issue. I think she could definitely go into media or even continue being a dental hygienist with her sleeve.

Admittedly, I do not like tattoos, at all. But as far as how much it would affect your career, I think it depends a lot on the field. I work for a scientific consulting company, where almost everyone has some interaction with clients, and that sort of look would definitely not fly here.

But my nephew is literally covered in tattoos, and he's never had trouble getting hired as a dental hygienist as far as I know.

Ya, her friend Toni posted "We live in America, where almost everyone has the same opportunities. If I can work and achieve things, so can you. You work for you." and Kail favorited it.

Kail annoys me most out of the girls, she always posts how everyone else can write a book and go to college and blah blah. The ONLY reason she's' able to do these things is MTV. She has not worked to achieve things, she got lucky by being picked for Teen Mom.

Also, she's having a children's book launch party in LA. SHE'S NOT A CELEBRITY OMG. She irritates me so much.

the only reason she achieved these things is because Jo got her knocked up, and Janet took care of her during the whole pregnancy, she owes them a big fat thank you

I guess Toni is not part of an unpopular minority, a poor family, nor has she a condition or just bad luck with her IQ.
Toni can have my Ehlers Danlos for a day

WALK THE RUNWAY ISAAC! PAY ATTENTION AND WALK THE RUNWAY!!!! ISAAC, ISAAC PAY ATTENTION!

ISAAC DON'T WALK LIKE A THUG! TURN ISAAC, TURN! YOU HAVE TO EARN THAT SWIMMINGPOOL!

I'm really curious to see how many books all of these girls have sold.

Lol I'm a writer too (in my spare time) and it's tough! I still have my full time job, now I have a baby on the way, and I'm writing the novel myself, not having someone do it for me. These girls have no clue. They seriously live in a bubble.

That's the sad thing about companies like Scentsy. They run on a pyramid scheme, and it does look like Kail is near the top. She's probably got thousands of fangirls signed up under her, and she makes commission off their sales. We can bitch all we want, but she probably is rolling in a nice chunk of change through her "business'" alone. Now, if she didn't blow it all on cars and houses, she'd probably be set for life, but since her and Javi like to go through cars like underwear, I think she'll be broke and back to being a dental hygienist 2-3yrs after the show ends.

looks like a red lipsticked mouth full of flamin hot cheetos

Exactly! I hate when people are saying that Jo should pay when they get the healthcare for free and it is true that for dental you do only pay a family cost. I saw some girl call him out on Twitter about it and he said " Well they still take it out of my check, get educated." Man I will personally slap him in the face with $30 every month so he can shut up. I can't with Javi. He knows nothing more than a brand new private and hasn't done shit in his military career so I wish he would sit down. I was in the Army and I had to laugh when the girl also said something about the CHAIR force and he called her ignorant. He's such a little bitch.

Yeah that's true. The thing that gets me is that I bet when they do take Isaac to the dentist and the bill is $100 for cavities being filled they probably don't say "Hey Jo the bill is $XX can you go half or pay the whole thing?" They probably just bitch about it. The thing that irks me about the child support situation is that Kail is just doing the same thing as Leah. They want to have the kids like 90% of the time but then they want to bitch about costs that come up and say " Well it's your responsibility too!" I agree that it is but if something should happen to Jo or Corey then who has the responsibility. They just don't think that way.

Kailyn is pretty unfashionable, in my opinion. She wears a shit-ton of layers that make her look bigger than she actually is (not saying she's fat, but I don't think all those big clothes she typically wears do her any favors). Jenelle always fucks up her shoes. She never wears the appropriate ones with whatever outfit she's showing off. It's super noticeable.

Agreed. Whenever Jenelle dresses up it's just... bad. Her clothes always look cheap and ill-fitting. What is the deal with the long sleeve tit apron she wore on the red carpet? How did she think that looks good?

Jenelle also wears stuff that looks good on a 6" model, but the proportions look totally ridiculous on her munchkin self.

@ Debra....I've seen Underage and Pregnant as well. It's such a contrast to Teen Mom. It's a bit similar to 16&P, but the girls on Underage and Pregnant definitely put into perspective of what it might be like to be a teen parent. They seem to struggle and are very serious.
I do like to watch the debauchery of TM, outlandish and ridiculous as it gets...but for two shows covering pretty much the same topic, they definitely take a different perspective. I know that health insurance overseas is also different than US insurance, which also makes it different.
Really though every "Teen mom" knock off show I've watched doesn't seem to meet MTV's....er, low standards maybe, lol.

Worse, I think :P They show all the bad stuff whereas MTV covers up some of the messes..

i saw one episode of under age and pregnant, and it's just so serious! The one girl I saw, she was sooo mature, the way she talked, she was already an adult, which is good. But I prefer watching deer cam scandals, cheetos and lunchables, fake ugly nells and hairs, trailer trash...etc.

There is also 'My teen is pregnant and so am I'. TLC I think.
My eyebrows get exercise watching that sometimes.

That show, "Underage and Pregnant" is on Youtube and I watched all of it last summer. I'm American. I wished they'd filmed catch up specials like the American version. It was a lot better than 16 and P in my opinion. Not as sugar coated.

It was a spin-off of the Dutch version of Tienmoeders (SBS6) which featured a thirteen years old in the first season... Yikes... But that season is no longer online available.

My ex.
as in.. he stalks my 'new' boyfriend (been going out with him for nearly a year)

but he's as crazy as Jenelle is so yeah.

Not really. Either way, my child is loved and will be well cared for. It's just kind of annoying lol. :)

My first I showed around 4 months. My second I didn't start showing until 7-8 months. I went into deliver my second looking 3 months pregnant lol. I'm now pregnant with my 3rd but I'm only 11 weeks so no one knows and I'm definitely not even beginning to show. 8 weeks is definitely gas. Your uterus isn't even above your pubic bone yet at that point.

Yeah, you do show earlier the second time. But she's not showing, she just looks like I do 30 minutes after walking into Chipotle.

My sister had not seen me for a while, looked at my belly and was very sure, at 8 weeks.
That was my second child but my colon is always celebrating by blowing itself up like a balloon ;-).
That and maybe cause I miscarried a few times plus there were two egg sacks in the beginning.

You are right.
I think it will be very, very long before Farrah finds her Kanye.
Statisticly the chance is about 0.002%. He has to be rich, handsome, batshit crazy and narcissistic too and he has to be in that 4% category. 'My wife makes good entertainment' is not the basis of a marriage.

What are we talking about? Lol I don't see anything.

I agree

But for Javi it does. He wants to replace Jo so bad.

If it were anyone but Javi, I'd totally buy and agree with that statement.
But sadly, it's Javi. Lol